Curse

Lews · Oct 26, 2005, 06:52 AM // 06:52

Why are people so vulgar in Guild Wars? Such as today in tombs:
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What is up with this? why wont people just be nice?

Can someone help me?

wheel · Oct 26, 2005, 07:01 AM // 07:01

look at player 8 in your own team - "Omfg Lets Iway"

quit whining, seriously. who knows if you simply pulled his statement out of context? more importantly, who cares?

Fantus · Oct 26, 2005, 07:26 AM // 07:26

I don't care much for that particular incident as it indeed might also be quoted out of context, but in general, rudeness in GW IS a big problem, especially in PvP. If I had a dollar for every time I or my teammates have been called names in PvP, I probably could quit my job immediately. My personal guess is that around 20%-30% of the GW population qualifies as utterly rude people. The only thing we can really do is to report ANYONE who uses abusive languange immediately. However it's a fight we can't win. There are too many of them, I guess...

indigowulf · Oct 26, 2005, 07:51 AM // 07:51

Its funny that everyone complains about offensive language and name calling when Ive seen character names that Id punish my son for saying. It is a problem, but its just sort of accepted. Everyone does it.. blah blah.

generik · Oct 26, 2005, 07:52 AM // 07:52

idk... trying to use a lame strat.. losing.. and turning around going "OMFG, so rude!"

Who cares, you lost, suck it

Eet GnomeSmasher · Oct 26, 2005, 08:06 AM // 08:06

Heh, this thread is rude.

aron searle · Oct 26, 2005, 08:36 AM // 08:36

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idk... trying to use a lame strat.. losing.. and turning around going "OMFG, so rude!"

So your saying that telling someone to f*** off is acceptable because he used iway??

and personally i dont see using the name "OMFG lets iway", as bad as telling someone to f*** off.

Go get a dictionary and look up "manners".

RTSFirebat · Oct 26, 2005, 08:57 AM // 08:57

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Originally Posted by aron searle

So your saying that telling someone to f*** off is acceptable because he used iway??

and personally i dont see using the name "OMFG lets iway", as bad as telling someone to f*** off.

Go get a dictionary and look up "manners".

Agree with everything you said... some of the stuff people come out with in the tombs is shocking. Its odd when people insult Korean and Euro teams by calling them all sorts of things... I mean what's the point?

Do it make you e-pee bigger? Does it make you feel better about yourself? I would report them, but since GW has a annoying support system I can't be asked 98% of the time unless it directed at me.

This game needs a system which by using /report "Username" the game would automatically transmit the last 20 lines of your chat window for study by A.net support...

They use this system in Planetside and it works wonders.

Taking a screen shot, coverting it to a jpeg (Most people get lost at this stage) and e-mailing it to support is simply not worth the effort.

aron searle · Oct 26, 2005, 09:16 AM // 09:16

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I found an article that called japan a police state and this is a few things they had posted as quoted:

I know.

Ive been called all sorts of names. But i simply cant be asred to spend my personal time reporting them.

neoteo · Oct 26, 2005, 09:33 AM // 09:33

i was going to start a thread about this ... but then found this one ..

i have been thinking , what are the reasons of the rude gw comunity ...
and besides the obvius , that is a free online play ...

my english vocabulary is not very deep , so ill try my best to explain this ... you can flame my gramar , i deserve it ...

the name of the game gives a clear image of what goes inside guild WARS

its a game based on war ... and for war we need adrenaline ... you know when the army shouts " atack !!!! " pulling the adrenaline out .. or when you need the be really awake and you slap your selfe ... well ,. i think people inside guild wars are rude .. to call out the adrenaline to play better ... even in pve ... i have notice that when we do everything silently , people leave or die more ofen ... if a team can survive to rudeness ... after that the team acts more like a team ... the fear of failing as come up ... the human interaction is a need for people to have a reason to play well ... and some people can only comunicate saying stupid things ... so .. when im in a batle a a warrior starts talking/flaming/teaching others , i just turn chat window off .. and keep playing until someone leaves and all go after him ...

i think the idea is +/- explained ... if you think its stupid and as nothing to do with anything ... think about what would foruns be without flames/trolls ..

its the world we live ...

better thing to do in guildwars is , find or make a guild that will have people that will only say nice things to you ...

that way you wont feel so bad when you catch a rude/troll player ...

Fantus · Oct 26, 2005, 10:24 AM // 10:24

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Originally Posted by indigowulf

Its funny that everyone complains about offensive language and name calling when Ive seen character names that Id punish my son for saying. It is a problem, but its just sort of accepted. Everyone does it.. blah blah.

a) not EVERYONE does it - only an immature minority does.
b) it's certainly not accepted. Maybe it's accepted by the offenders themselves, but certainly not by the 70% of players who are NOT rude
c) there is no difference between using rude language and offensive character names - both sort of people shoud get immediately banned

Yes, reporting all those people is hard work, but let's put it this way: If you report one person and this person gets banned, you just helped to make GW a better place. It's like charity, in a way.

Fantus · Oct 26, 2005, 10:31 AM // 10:31

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Originally Posted by neoteo

better thing to do in guildwars is , find or make a guild that will have people that will only say nice things to you ...

A high adrenaline level doesn't really excuse rude language. It's not acceptably to call people names in real life - why should it be acceptable in a computer game. The character you just called a "damn n00b" is a real person of flesh and blood, too. The fact that you can't see him/her, doesn't change the fact that you just hurt a human being.

As for the guild part: Yes, indeed. You can safely assume that I would kick a rude person from the guild in less then 10 seconds. If I'd ever see one of our members calling other people "n00bs" and stuff, the next thing they'd notice is the missing cape on their backs. We have a code of coduct in our guild which prohibits all of our members from EVER being rude to anyone, guild members or not.

pedrolito · Oct 26, 2005, 10:43 AM // 10:43

none of my business but http://www.guild-hall.net/forum/show...d=1#post358264

Cymmina · Oct 26, 2005, 11:09 AM // 11:09

Don't like profanity? Turn back on your profanity filter. I'm not going to change who I am just because someone pissed me off and I tell them to go f themselves, and the "omg I'm offended by everything" crowd is offended.

Swearing is one thing. What I can't stand are the racist, hateful comments that are directed towards European and Korean players by the American community for no good reason.

BTW, did you know that "WTF" is on the City of Heroes profanity filter list?

Daegul Mistweaver · Oct 26, 2005, 11:11 AM // 11:11

Alright, let's look at varieties of rude for a moment.

1) Offensive character names - The filter for character name submission needs some work here. Being as there is no way to blot out a character name, the solution here is to report; Anet is fairly good on follow-thru here.

2) Racist or obscene commentary that involves no cursing - Tends to be the product of "aged" teenage angst. Involves some thought to produce; hence, should know better. No way to filter in volume with a 10-limit ignore list; solution is report.

3) Foul language - If directed in a hostile manner, as the OP's screenshot portrays (see the final line of chat), is usually the product of young teens whos' thought-before-action % lies somewhere near the offender's age. If non-hostile, usually a side-effect of good-natured male posturing; and while offensive to some, is not intended to offend. In either case the solution here is to use the chat filter; this is what the chat filter is there for, and to report items which could be solved via the filter is a waste of Anet time and resources. Obviously, conscious effort to circumvent the filter (i.e. C U R S E), should fall more into catagory 2 and be handled accordingly.

4) Use of character e-motes to mimic sexual acts. If this is something observed as something others are engaged in, it's basically relegated to making out in public; the clothes are on so things aren't going to go much farther than as is deserving of a headshake. Now, if these behaviours are being performed on your character in an agressive and unwanted manner (meaning you move, they follow and repeat continually); then you have reportable malicious behaviour (providing Anet with visual proof is going to be rather more involved than a single screenshot).

That's the breakdown as I see it; feel free to expand if I've missed anything. Now, I have a problem with item #3; or, more specifically, people who work themselves into a self-righteous (yes, I'm well aware of my spelling inadequecies, see? I'm horrible) fury and storm off to the forums to rattle their sabers with offended zeal.

The filter function is there. You (the offended) are bright enough to march yourselves here to post; therefore you are intelligent enough to make use of said filter. Obviously you have made a conscious choice not to use it. Why? Are you addicted to self-pity and set off here to have a good cry and bask in the consolation provided? Or are you the more malicious sort trying to rally consensus that you might outst people who fail to conform to your view of right and proper? If you find yourself filling out the submission to report someone in catagory 3; seriously, get over yourself and use the damn filter.

Charcoal Ann · Oct 26, 2005, 11:32 AM // 11:32

if i get really really annoyed at something (never yet got THAT annoyed at a person) in game, like dying for no real reason or the mouse not clicking the skills properly, if i really really feel like swearing... i never really go beyond something like /vehement swearing.

i find it works just as well if you need to let your anger be heard. people on the other hand? how do i deal with them? easy, let them take the piss out of themselves. let them swear. it won't do them any good.

Sister Rosette · Oct 26, 2005, 11:34 AM // 11:34

MB was rather vulgar with us the last time I was grouped against them
in HoH as well, so don't feel too bad.

Sekkira · Oct 26, 2005, 11:37 AM // 11:37

Playful banter in jest for the match of opposing sides.

OMFG SOMEONE TOLD ME TO RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO OFF IMMA CRY NOW

coolsti · Oct 26, 2005, 11:52 AM // 11:52

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Originally Posted by Cymmina

Don't like profanity? Turn back on your profanity filter. I'm not going to change who I am just because someone pissed me off and I tell them to go f themselves, and the "omg I'm offended by everything" crowd is offended.

Swearing is one thing. What I can't stand are the racist, hateful comments that are directed towards European and Korean players by the American community for no good reason.

BTW, did you know that "WTF" is on the City of Heroes profanity filter list?

Better learn to control yourself, mate. If you don't, in real life you might wind up getting hurt or even killed for your emotional outbursts. In this game, I for one will not have any more to do with you if I'm in your party and you start badmouthing someone in the party like that. This means no healing, no rez if I am playing monk, otherwise no support if I am playing any other character. I've had my fill of party members who for no real good reason start berating someone else just because their playing style is perhaps not up to par with theirs.

Fantus · Oct 26, 2005, 11:56 AM // 11:56

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Originally Posted by Cymmina

Don't like profanity? Turn back on your profanity filter. I'm not going to change who I am just because someone pissed me off and I tell them to go f themselves, and the "omg I'm offended by everything" crowd is offended.

Where is the difference in seeing "go fsck yourselves" and "go ---- yourselves" in chat? If your IQ is in the normal range of human beings, your brain will be perfectly capable of filling in the missing word, won't it? Swear filters are really among the silliest things ever invented. All they do is making certain people think they now have carte blanche to swear away as they please.

If you are not able to control your anger and stick to reasonable manners you shouldn't play online games...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cymmina

Swearing is one thing. What I can't stand are the racist, hateful comments that are directed towards European and Korean players by the American community for no good reason.

There is no difference between verbally abusing other people because of their race or by calling them a-holes or other names. Really none. I have no respect at all for both.